Showing posts with label Vinnie Vinh. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Vinnie Vinh. Show all posts

Monday, June 09, 2008

2008 WSOP Day 10 - The Archie Karas Comeback and Vinny Vinh's Final Table

By Pauly
Las Vegas, NV


Archie Karas on Day 1
(Photo credit: Benjo)

"Archie Karas showed up with just $9 in his wallet," said Tom Sexton.

Tom Sexton and I were often teamed up together at the 2007 WSOP when we both worked for Poker News. During the breaks, we'd hang out and he'd tell some amazing and mind-blowing stories about hijinks with his brother Mike and Stuey Ungar. I love to soak up stories about the poker scene in the 1970s and 1980s. I'd rather sit down and listen to Flipchip, Johnny Hughes, or Tom Sexton recant stories about the real Las Vegas and the seedy side that has been glossed over. The media and the corporations running Vegas did an amazing job at cosmetically enhancing poker. But if you want the straight dope on Sin City, you have to rely upon the oral history from the grizzled veterans who survived the war of attrition on the casino floors and back alleys of Las Vegas.

The worst thing that could happen these days is getting flamed on a 2+2 forum. Twenty or thirty years ago, if your conduct was deemed uncouth, you got the beat down of your life in some dark alley behind Glitter Gulch. The troublemakers caught on real quick otherwise they would find their fate at the bottom of a ditch in the middle of the dessert.

Last summer, Tom Sexton told me stories about Archie "The Greek" Karas. He would become the subject of a series of posts for Tom's column at PokerNews called Sexton's Corner. Karas was legendary for running up $50 into a $40-50 million bankroll... then he lost it all. And my favorite Archie Karas story is how on one single day, he played Chip Reese and Stu Ungar each heads up and beat them for a combined $1.2 million.

Archie Karas was the biggest swinging dick in Las Vegas at one time before he pissed away his fortune. He's flat broke today as he began his comeback. He got staked in the $10,000 World Championship of Seven-card Stud and will also be playing Razz, which at one time, he was regarded the best in the world.

Karas hung tough against one of the deepest fields so far at the WSOP. Out of 158 runners, he was among the 80 players who advanced to Day 2. Karras ended Day 1 with almost 55K in chips, which was good enough for 17th place overall. That's an impressive feat considering he hasn't been seen at the WSOP in years. I vaguely recall Karas making the final table of the Razz event at the 2005 WSOP. I had not seen him since.

Archie Karas grew up in Greece and ran away from home when he was 17. He worked on different ships in various jobs. While on a stop in America, Karas jumped ship and never went back. He eventually showed up in Los Angeles and barely spoke English. He learned English and Spanish and was soon hustling in pool halls and bowling alleys. But it was poker where he could make the most money.

In his 20s, Karas was a rounder in high stakes games in different Los Angeles card rooms. His bankroll always fluctuated. He'd run it up to over a million over a couple of months then go busto in a weekend.

"Archie was widely known to win and lose a million dollars as much as fifty times over, mostly playing in the L.A. area. When broke, he would find a new backer to start over," said Tom Sexton.

"One day I might be driving a Mercedes, and the next day I might be sleeping in it!" explained Karas.

In December of 1992, Karas had hit rock bottom. He lost the last of his $2 million bankroll in various games in Los Angeles. He had $50 to his name and did what any action junkie would do. He gassed up the car, drove through bat country, and headed for the tables in Las Vegas.

Karas showed up at Binion's Horseshoe. He spotted a friend and boldly asked him for a $10,000 stake so he could sit in a 200/400 Razz game. Karas was known as one of the best Razz players in the world and got bought into the game.

"He came out of the gate blazing and tripled his money in three hours. He quickly went over and paid his $10,000 personal loan off, plus a 50% profit for the happy investor," said Tom Sexton.

Within three hours of his arrival in Las Vegas, Karas had a bankroll. It would just be the beginning of his rollercoaster ride.

"Archie (Karas) had more gamble in him than any person I ever met," said Jack Binion.

And it was true. Karas would shoot pool for up to $40,000 a game. Karas took down one gambler for $1 million inside of four lengthy sessions of nine-ball. Karas couldn't be beat yet his opponent kept trying and failing and reloading and trying and failing. However, Karas took a tremendous hit during th fifth session and lost back $740,000. Before he went to pay his opponent the outstanding debt, Karas' backer unsuccessfully tried to convince Karas to not pay the debt and say that they got robbed. In 1992, $740,000 was a sizable amount. It's still a lot of money by today's standards. Instead of weaseling his way out of paying his debts like his backer suggested, Karas did the stand up thing. He went to his box at the Horseshoe, took out $740,000 and paid his debt.

His backer dropped him and Karas returned to pool hustling. He won back 1.2 million and was up about 500K when his pool opponent (who was also a world champion poker player) suggested they switch to heads up poker.

"I took that one million I won shooting pool with him and went on to win three million more from him playing poker in only a few days. We started at $4,000/8,000 limit seven-card stud and quickly moved up to $8,000/$16,000 limit, which was unheard of in those days," said Karas.

In 1993, a statistical anomaly occurred in Las Vegas. Archie Karras went up against the best players in the world and inside of three months, he turned $7 million in $17 million. His streak has been called "The Run" which is the greatest single winning streak in poker and one of the most noteworthy in the history of gambling.

"I easily had a $7,000,000 bankroll at this point, and my confidence was on top of the world," said Karas. "I remember getting ten racks of $5,000 chips, which is $5,000,000, and putting them in the middle of the poker room on a poker table at the Horseshoe. I was ready to take on all comers in poker, and this stirred up a lot of interest. Poker's most colorful character, Puggy Pearson, began to circle the table and the whole room, chanting, 'Step right up here, boys, and help yourself to some of this easy money... $5,000,000 just waiting for you... step right up!' Puggy was comical and appeared to be like a carnival barker, continuing, 'Archie will take on all comers... step right up to his office!'"

Karas took on Stu Ungar heads up. Lyle Berman staked Ungar $500,000 for the game. They played Razz and Ungar was outplayed.

"It didn't take long to demolish Stuey," said Karas who won a half o' mil of Berman's money.

A couple of days later, Chip Reese wanted a shot at Karas and the two arranged a game of Razz. The match lasted eight hours and when it was over, Karas emerged $500,000 richer. He went to dinner and when he got back, Ungar and Berman were waiting for him. Karas played Ungar a second time. Four hours later it was over and Karas beat Ungar for $700,000 more of Berman's money. In one day, Karas beat Stu Ungar and Chip Reese for $1.2 million and won over $1.7 million from them in total that week. Karas wasn't done and continued to hunt down the biggest sharks in Vegas.

"The most money I ever lost in poker was $2,022,000 in one night, playing $8,000/$16,000 limit against Archie Karas," said Chip Reese.

That fateful night happened right after Karas' magical $1.2 million day. During The Run both Johnny Chan and Doyle Brunson took cracks at Karas with less than stellar results.

Karas reflected, "Many of my opponents want to add games or play half razz and half seven-card stud. I want to play one game only, so razz being my best game, the opponents usually played seven-card stud 90% of the time. Once Johnny Chan wanted to add a few games, and I quickly said, 'John, I'm not looking to add any games. I'm looking to take one away. Tell you what I'll do, if you want to play another game: Let's play six-card razz. He went for it, and lost a quick $300,000! If you're a great razz player, playing six-card razz is even more of an edge. You have to be quick-minded and smart in this shark-infested world in order to survive. Like a boxer, you have to protect yourself at all times."

Karas was also an action junkie and could easily lose millions at the craps tables. Karas craved for those miliseconds of anticipation as the dice danced on the felt. One night he had a bloody awful run which found him stuck $11 million. He was still tilting the next day when he showed up at the Mirage to play Chip Reese. He blew through his buy-in and had to borrow $2 million from Chip Reese just to stay in the game.

"I've never loaned $1,000,000 to anyone in a poker game, let alone $2,000,000," said Reese who eventually loaned Karas the money when he explained he had several million in his box down at the Horseshoe.

Karas lost it all to Reese. After the session at the Mirage, the two drove to the Horseshoe. Karas paid $2 million back to Reese. That would be the last time they played heads up.

"I had to start playing dice and baccarat more," explained Karas. "I played and beat the best poker players heads up, including Chip Reese, who I must have played 25 matches with. Word spread quickly how tough I was to beat, and I couldn't find anyone to play with after a while. I had to start shooting dice, and ended up running my $17 million bankroll up to over $40 million as a result."

Tom Sexton said, "My brother, Mike, saw (Karas) lose $1 million in about five minutes at the dice table in 1993. (Karas) bet $10,000 on the pass line with $100,000 odds, and bet two come bets the same way. (Karas) sevened out on the fourth roll each of three successive times in a row, losing $330,000 each time."

"The most I won in one session was $12 million but that night I was already stuck $4 million first. So I netted $8 million for the evening. I went up and down for over two years, winning $5 million scores on the dice tables on many occasions," said Karas.

It was a matter of time before Karas lost it all.

"There was a three-week period of time where I lost $30,000,000, which I could never fade," said a regretful Karas.

Karas lost his bankroll at the dice and baccarat tables. When Karas was down to his last million, he made a terrible decision that cost him the remainder of his money. He took his last $1 million to the Bicycle Club in Los Angeles. He played Johnny Chan heads up. Chan was backed by Berman and both Berman and Chan alternated every two hours playing Karas heads up.

Karas doubled up but his inner action junkie could not prevent him from heading to the craps tables. He said goodbye to his last $2 million shooting dice.

Since then, Karas had faded away into obscurity. Sure, his name was whispered from time to time. Some of his feats were often dismissed as urban legends, but sadly, his incorrigible highs takes gambling got the best of him. The house always wins. Karas will be the first to tell you that. He should have stuck to poker, but the games dried up for him. His thirst for action got him into trouble as he gravitated towards -EV games.

"If I had known there was a poker boom right around the corner," said Karas. "I would have parked $10 million to the side, even if I had to wait ten years to play. Poker has always been my bread and butter. I'll point out that between 1992 and 1995, who could have guessed there was going to be such a boom in poker by 2003? Back then, I couldn't wait three hours to get in action. Dice is the fastest action in the world, where I could win or lose a million with one roll of the dice."

The legendary Nick "The Greek" Dandolos died broke and was last seen playing $5 poker in California card rooms. Archie "The Greek" Karas doesn't want to go out in a similar way. Karas showed up at the 2008 WSOP in Las Vegas with $9 and riding a wave of nostalgia. He sat down in the $10K Stud Championship hoping that he could replicate his magical run of turning $50 into $50 million.

Karas carefully navigated his way through Day 1 and returned among the chipleaders for Day 2. As the field thinned out, Karas' stack failed to increase and suddenly found himself among the shortstacks. Karas' comeback fizzled out when he busted out in 23rd place, only five spots off the money.

Tomorrow is another day. Based on his gutsy performance against the best players in the world, I'm sure Karas would have no trouble finding backing for a few more WSP events. Heck, I'd even take a piece of him in the Razz event if it's available. After all, he beat Chip Reese and Stu Ungar for millions in Razz.

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Vinny Vinh's empty chair
(Photo credit: Wicked Chops Poker)

Vinny Vinh made headlines again at the WSOP. The empty chair made an appearance on Day 3 of the $1,500 Limit Hold'em event. For almost an hour media reps took turns taking photos of his empty chair and whispered rumors about his whereabouts.

Vinh wandered over to his seat. If he had arrived on time, he would have been the chipelader. Since he arrived late, his lead slipped a bit.

Vinh was high on something... and it wasn't Christ. He was a lit monkey. It could have been a combo of cough syrup and diet pills or maybe just some old fashioned crack cocaine. Most likely, Vinh was cranked out of his mind, which explained why he couldn't sit still.

For someone that wasted and far gone, I'm shocked he kept his shit together enough to advanced to the final table. Despite all the screaming, standing up, muttering phrases in broken English and Vietnamese, and glancing over at the thugs on the rail, Vinh overcame it all and finish in third place in a WSOP event.

During dinner break, I spotted Vinh shrieking in the hallway as he babbled some things to CK Hua and Men the Master. He disappeared outside and returned from the break more inebriated than before. He never bothered to restack his chips after he won a pot and played with a dirty stack for the remainder of the final table.

Vinh wasn't even supposed to play in the WSOP, but Tommy Vu pleaded with his backer to give him a shot. After all, if the guy is not working how can he pay down his debts?

Vinh was eliminated in third place. On paper, he won $99,099. I wonder how much of that he got to keep? I'm gonna guess... $0. The thick-necked thug on the rail was there to make sure the people he worked for got their cut... first.

To final table any WSOP event is a major milestone. To achieve that daunting task under the close scrutiny of fans, media, players, Harrah's suits, and thick-necked thugs seemed almost impossible, yet Vinny Vinh pulled it off. It's a sad and tragic story in one sense and a total reminder of the heinous side of poker and addiction.

The Vinny Vinhs, Stu Ungars, Eskimo Clarks, and Archie Karases of the world betrayed their craft. They were given a cherished and rare gift from the poker gods and squandered away their talents in a futile attempt to quench a thirst that can never be satisfied whether it was drugs, sex, craps, booze, or flipping coins.


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Sunday, June 17, 2007

WSOP Day 16: Congestion Mutation and the Ghost of Vinnie Vinh

By Pauly

There were not too many open spots left in the Rio parking lot so we parked all the way in the back corner. A security guard rolled up in the Rio mini-van and asked us if we wanted a ride since it was 106 degrees. Of course, we said yes. He drove us up to the main entrance of the convention center. Thanks again to Joseph who spared me from sweating my ass off just to cross the sizzling pavement on my way to work.

Saturdays are the most congested day at the Rio. The weekend warriors fly into Las Vegas with grandiose dreams in pursuit of poker glory and a bracelet in the $1,500 donkfests that attract close to 2,000 players. Since it's also the weekend, plenty of slow-moving tourists flock to the Rio to check out the spectacle of the World Series of Poker. Most of them are newbies and are overwhelmed by the experience. They don't know about the no flash photography rule as every few minutes a rapid flash of white light illuminates a table with Phil Ivey or Doyle Brunson sitting at it.

And if you get caught roaming the hallways on a break, it resembles Mardi Gras minus the tits and stench of spilled beer and urine. Notions of claustrophobia attack the senses as the hallways are flooded with poker players and spectators trying to get outside for a smoke break, grab a snack at the Poker Kitchen, seeking out the shortest line to the bathroom, and recanting a bad beat story via their cell phones.

Then there's the amateur paparazzi who seek out photos of Jen Harman or pester Eli Elezra for an autograph while he's on break for his final table.

"Eli, remember that hand on High Stakes Poker, season 1 when you had 5-3s and Negreanu flopped a set but you rivered a flush on him and he went on tilt? Remember that?" a woman wearing a WSOP visor and a PokerStars t-shirt said to Elezra as he walked out of the bathroom.

He shrugged his shoulders and stopped to take a photo with the woman. And as soon as the pros stop, the rest of the cockroaches scurry out and bombard him with more photo requests as a symposium on High Stakes Poker hands break out in front of the Poker Kitchen. Elezra had his mind on beating Scotty Nguyen heads up, but he handled the massed with class and dignity.

Not every pro does that. I've seen a few scoff at the autograph seekers. I've witnessed WPT champions act surly towards photograph requests. Some pros are truly shy and cherish their privacy. Some are simply on a break and are more concerned with examining their play than chatting up with fans on the rail.

As one pro mentioned to me, "The spectators often forget that we're at work. I get one 15 minute break every two hours. The last thing I want to do is stand there like a cardboard cut out and pose for photos."

I sat in the Sao Paolo cafe and ate breakfast (at 1:30pm) with Change100 as we watched hundreds and hundreds of players doing the walk of shame after they busted out of the $1,500 event. A few of them were on their phones moaning about the bad beat while others seemed pleased to have played in a WSOP event. They spent the $1,500 on the overall experience and can now die peacefully because they played in at least one WSOP event. You can't criticize those players since they help swell up the prize pool.

With a 3,000 starting stack and one hour levels with swift escalating blinds in addition to playing in a field of "3,000 monkeys" as Minneapolis Jim Meehan described those events, the action goes super fast. Half the field busts before dinner break. Three hundred or so players are left by Midnight and by 2am, the money bubble bursts at 200. 90% of the field is decimated by the end of Day 1. And every time I see that happen, I'm in awe.

Michalski was one of the early casualties. He had Barry Greenstein seated to his right. He got crippled early and fought back before he busted out when he lost a coinflip.

Moving on...

My assignment for Day 16 was to cover the Day 2 Event #25 $2,000 NL. 130 players survived Day 1. Liz Lieu and Brandon Schaefer had cashed in the event and were trying to make it to the final table. Since the money bubble burst just as play ended on Day 1, the beginning of Day 2 featured a blizzard of eliminations. Twenty players headed to the rail in the first fifteen minutes of play. Liz Lieu survived the initial onslaught and doubled up with her shortstack, but she busted out in 89th place.

Steve Dannenmann played in Day 1 of the $1,500 donkfest. He said he played super fast and super loose and tried to build up a stack. When he realized that was not happening and it got close to the starting time for Day 2 of Event #25, he moved all in blind. He had to talk his opponent into calling him and finally busted so he could head over to play in Day 2. Sadly, Dannenmann didn't go deep and he busted out in 90th place just before Liz.

Brand Schaefer struggled early on. He had several short stacks at his table to his left that would jam the pot if Brandon opened up for a raise. He patiently waited for his spots as he slipped out of the Top 10 in chips. With four tables remaining, he was in the middle of the pack and got crippled when his A-10 lost to A-Q. He busted out on the next hand in 31st place. Despite not making the final table, Brandon has a 20th place and a 31st place finish at the 2007 WSOP. That's not too shabby.


Kazuki Ikeuchi playing in Event #25
(Photo courtesy of Flipchip via PokerNews)

I had a great crew working with me for that event including Dave, Zeke, and Slippers one of our Aussie guys. And I also got to work with Jen Creason for a bit. If you haven't heard, PokerNews drew some criticism over the chipcounts over the first two weeks. In order to address that issue, our big wigs went out and hired the best possible person in the universe to do that... Jen Creason otherwise known as PokerWire Jen. A couple of years ago, Jen started PokerWire. The neice of Howard Lederer and fiancee to Andy Bloch left the business at the end of the summer last year to finish up her degree at Duke. Now, we have her working part-time with PokerNews. Obviously she can't work everyday but I'm confident that the overall quality of chipsounts will improve thanks to her joining our ranks. No one can count a table faster than Jen and I'm super pumped to have her on the team. Hopefully this recent hire will bolster one of the weaker aspects of our coverage. In baseball terms, it's like signing a left-handed power-hitter a few months into the season.

There are 12 players left in the $5K HORSE event including Phil Ivey and Bill Gazes. Phil Ivey supposedly bet $2 million that he'd win a bracelet in 2007. I'm not clear on who exactly bet him if it was Doyle Brunson, Chip Reese, Bobby Baldwin, or Lyle Berman. It could have been all four pooling their money. I don't know. I'm on the case and trying to find out. But here's the coolest part... Ivey is getting 5-1 odds. If he wins a bracelet on Day 17, he cashes in for $10 million in a prop bet. By the way, first place pays $275K in that event. That's pocket change compared to the possibility of a $10 million pay day. I'd keep an eye on that event to see of Ivey can make a final table and win a bracelet. He came close already this year with a second place finish in the $5K Stud event when he lost to Chris Reslock. Click here to follow the action in Event #26 $5,000 HORSE.

I'll be covering Day 2 of the $1,500 donkfest. There are 135 players remaining. Click here to follow the action in Event #27 $1,500 NL Hold'em.

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Bouncin' Round the Room on Day 16

I spotted David Sklansky walking down the hallway of the convention center with a hot woman who had her hand in his back pocket. Was she a pro? At this point... we don't know.

Vinnie Vinh is alive. I saw him playing in the $1,500 event. We even got a photo of him at Poker News. He didn't seem too thrilled about getting his photo snapped, but he's not dead like many of us thought after he failed to show up on Day 2 of an event.


Vinnie Vinh
(Photo courtesy of PokerNews)

Gavin Smith told me about a hand he misplayed during the Event #26 $5,000 HORSE event. I prefer hearing pros talk about hands in that manner instead of hearing bad beats stories. I usually can't learn too much from a bad beat, but listening to pros examine every detail of a hand with remarkable clarity is both fascinating and educational. Smith is an exceptional player and he broke down the action in the most simplest turns and was able to objectively look at the situation. All of this went down during one of his breaks as he sipped a rum and coke and kept saying, "Pauly, I really played that bad." Gavin Smith busted out a few minutes later in 21st place in between Doyle Brunson and Australia's Billy the Croc.
Last 5 Pros I Pissed Next to...
1. Thor Hansen
2. Brandon Schaefer
3. E-Fro
4. Ben Roberts
5. Alex Jacob
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